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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #80
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-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Thu, 27 Jan 94 Volume 94 : Issue 80
-
- Today's Topics:
- **YAESU PARTS HELP**
- Callbook Server
- CW filters and DSP-9 (2 msgs)
- Famous hams
- FCC RF Spectrum Allocation?
- FTP site for Keps
- general
- htx-202 or dj-162 ?
- Illegal Activities of Dominique Cormann (Re: CB/HAM equipment)
- INDEX
- Is portable radio use possible in remote wilderness areas?
- LA Comms
- nearby broadcast antennas
- Need info on CCW
- Of Wouff Hongs and Royal Rites (2 msgs)
- Power Line Interference (2 msgs)
- Warning About FT-415/815 mod on world
- Yeasu FT416 mods wanted
-
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-
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-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jan 94 08:33:22 CST
- From: ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ukma!netnews.wku.edu!bcobb@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: **YAESU PARTS HELP**
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- HELP!!! I HAVE A FT-901DM (HF RIG) WHICH NEEDS SOME PARTS..ANYBODY
- HAVE A NUMBER FOR YAESU PARTS OR AN IDEA WHERE OLDER YAESU PARTS CAN
- BE FOUND? THANKS... BOB KA4CLL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jan 1994 07:41:51 GMT
- From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!wupost!bigfoot.wustl.edu!cec1!jlw3@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Callbook Server
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Shawn Conahan (sconahan@ccantares.wcupa.EDU) wrote:
- : Willie Smith writes:
-
- : >...Did the internet call book go away,...
-
- : No, it hasn't vanished, it can still be reached by telnet at
-
- : cc.buffalo.edu 2000
-
- : (notice the word "callsign" is omitted from the address). 73
- : --
- : Shawn T. Conahan, Ph.D.
- : N3CGT
- : sconahan@ccantares.wcupa.edu
-
- Is it just me or does this really not work? I have always used the other
- one, but I tried this out--
- callsign.cs.buffalo.edu 2000 works much better from here (considering that
- cs.buffalo.edu gives me an "unknown host" reply)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 19:47:22 GMT
- From: news.cerf.net!pagesat.net!olivea!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: CW filters and DSP-9
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Ignacy Misztal (ignacy@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
- : wvanhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William E Van Horne) writes:
-
- : >Kein{nen Paul wrote:
-
- : >Can someone with a great deal more technical knowledge than I have
- : >state just what is the minimum usable bandwidth for a 10-20 WPM CW
- : >signal, and how much audible ringing is truly inescapable?
-
- : I assume that G is an average-size letter in Morse and the
- : transmission is at 120 wpm (2 characters/s). ...
-
- 120 wpm is 2 WORDS per second, or about 10 characters per second.
-
- In my previous posting, I analyzed the required bandwidth based on
- a ringing fall-off rate of three time constants during the "off"
- time between dits and dahs. Ignacy's method of looking at the
- frequency content of the baseband signal (i.e. the keying rate)
- is also valid.
-
- The highest pulse repetition frequency is when you are sending a
- string of dits (for example, the letter H or the number 5.)
- My previous example of 48 wpm results in 20 dots per second.
- A Morse code signal can be considered to be an AM (ampltidude
- modulated) signal that is 100% modulated with a square wave, in
- this case a 20 Hz square wave. Since an AM signal has two sidebands,
- the bandwidth must be at least 40 Hz.
-
- My previous result was 38 Hz, in good agreement with the above result.
- The required bandwidth is proportional to keying speed so, for example,
- 24 wpm would require about 20 Hz, etc.
-
- AL N1AL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 19:53:46 GMT
- From: news.cerf.net!pagesat.net!olivea!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: CW filters and DSP-9
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Rajiv Dewan (rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote:
-
- ..
- : Each dot is encoded by an dot time length on and a dot time length off, i.e., a
- : cycle of twice the dot lenght. This is like multiplying a 50Hz square wave
- : with a 750 Hz tone. To maintain some semblance of square shape,
- : one would want to include the fundamental and at least the third harmonic.
- : This results in a minimum bandwidth of 150Hz. ...
-
- It's actually twice that, since the modulated 750 Hz tone has two sidebands.
-
- AL N1AL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 Jan 1994 10:15:54 -0800
- From: sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!sgigate.sgi.com!olivea!apple.com!apple.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Famous hams
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- mosier@fagan.uncg.edu (Stephen Mosier) writes:
-
- >AND A FEW OTHER FAMOUS ONES HEARD ON THE AIR...
-
- >RG8U
- >R2D2
-
-
- You forgot 5Z4GT. I thought I might fully rectify the e^Homission.
-
- 73,
-
- Kok Chen, AA6TY kchen@apple.com
- Apple Computer, Inc.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 16:02:13 GMT
- From: utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!sifon!clouso.crim.ca!hobbit.ireq.hydro.qc.ca!cumin.telecom.uqam.ca!news@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: FCC RF Spectrum Allocation?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <rjk.759520576@access1> rjk@access1.digex.net (Robert J. Keller) writes:
- >
- >I don't have handy at the moment where on the net you might find this,
- >but the FCC's spectrum allocations are set forth in Part 2 of its Rules.
- >You need Subpart B of Part 2 of Title 47 of the Code of Federal
- >Regulations. In legalese (not that the foregoing was actually English)
- >that is "47 C.F.R. sections 2.100 - 2.108 and it is called the
- >"Allocation, Assignment, and Use of Radio Frequencies," more commonly
- >called, the Table of Allocations.
- >
- >I recall seeing that there is a Gopher site somewhere that is
- >experimentally offering access to at least some portions of CFR, but
- >unfortunately I don't have the reference handy at the moment.
- >
- >Good luck.
- >--
- >Bob Keller (KY3R) rjk@telcomlaw.win.net Tel 301.229.5208 Fax 301.229.6875
- >
-
- I would guess that you could get that info at M.I.T.
-
- on the ftp site : /pub/telecom-archives or something like that .
-
- they also have a very good http site (hypertext)
-
- .... hope that helps ...
-
- Luc Gagnon T.P. VE2 LGN
-
- E.T.S. - Quebec University
- Montreal Quebec Canada
-
- luc@ele.etsmtl.ca
-
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Jan 94 21:28:57 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: FTP site for Keps
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi--
-
- I know there is an ftp site out there for getting the keplarian elements. I
- use to remember what it was, but I have long since forgotten it. I would appr
- eciate any help.....Thanx & 73's....Gary AA9JS
-
- internet: st1860@siucvmb.siu.edu
- bitnet: st1860@siucvmb.bitnet
- packet: aa9js@kd9sg.#sil.il.usa
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Jan 94 22:26:06 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: general
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- subscribe newsgroup.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 12:12:25 -0500
- From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!csn!hellgate.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!NewsWatcher!user@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: htx-202 or dj-162 ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have pretty much narrowed down my choice to these two 2m ht's.
-
- I'd like to get comments and opinions from people in the net who
- have actually used both.
-
- currently, I am leaning towards the dj-162 because of its wide
- receive.
-
- please email responses if possible.
- thanks in advance.
-
- jerry
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jan 1994 06:46:43 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!news.forth.gr!helios.intranet.gr!phaethon!demetre@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Illegal Activities of Dominique Cormann (Re: CB/HAM equipment)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >The reason I am selling this, is that I am getting my HAM license soon, and
- >am starting to look for a 2 meter radio. I will also trade the above setup,
- >for a good 2 meter setup, make me an offer.
-
- Not if I can help it. I will use any influence I have left as the Former
- Public Service Director of the Northern Alberta Radio Club, and any avenues
- of information transfer, such as the Packet Radio system, to ensure that people
- of your kind are carefully scrutinized. This will not prevent you receiving
- your ticket, but it may make you very uncomfortable when your past catches up
- with you.
-
- I was shocked from this message !! I always thought that Amateur Radio
- was created and is still popular due to it's promotion of friendship !!
- So what if the man was a "pirate", what matters *now* is the fact that
- he is going straight !!! If he seems to be sincere about his "turn around"
- he should be given the chance to do so !!!
- Every possible effort must be made to reform the radio pirates with the
- real *amateur" way, not with threats and vengence like you have done !!
-
- 73's
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Jan 94 20:03:00 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: INDEX
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- INDEX
- HELP
- INFO
- 2-METER
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Jan 94 20:14:29 GMT
- From: sdcc12!sdcc14!ph600fgr@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Is portable radio use possible in remote wilderness areas?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I do much backpacking, and increasingly I go alone. I'm thinking
- about the possibility of bringing a communications radio with
- me. Do these things have a large enough range to work out in
- the wilderness? I typically find myself only in California.
-
- What's the cost involved, and how big are the radios?
-
- -Matt
-
- --
-
- Internet: mbharrin@ucsd.edu
- Bitnet: MBHARRIN@UCSD.BITNET
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 Jan 94 06:06:26 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcom.com!wb6w@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: LA Comms
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Steven Jackson (jackson@longlast.cs.nyu.edu) wrote:
- : Hello all, and good luck to the LA residents.
-
- : What kind of communications did amateurs take part in during the emergency
- : out there? I love to speculate (the less you know, the more you guess) but
- : I would like to know for sure what kind of things kick into action when
- : something like that strikes.
-
- I listened to some of the comms in Socal. What I heard reminded me very
- much of what was going on here (NorCal) after our 7.1 in '89. CelTel
- has had a LOT of publicity as has Internet. At the same time, I've seen
- NO media mention of Amateur Radio activity down there. Sheesh!
-
- While CelTel seems to indicate that any boob can provide comms in a disaster,
- keep in mind that CelTel relies on landline and that the CelTel "HT" is
- just as subject to dead battery syndrome and a 2m HT. The difference is that
- the ham has (hopefully) had some training on *HOW* to handle disaster comms
- and some idea of where hir next battery charge is coming from.
-
- The experience with cell tel in '89 was that it didn't work very well when
- the batteries were charge and not at all when they weren't.
-
- - Glenn wb6w
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 Jan 94 05:59:51 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!crcnis1.unl.edu!engvms.unl.edu!tmrdpsrs@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: nearby broadcast antennas
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello All,
-
- I have a question about a possible interference problem that I may soon be
- experiencing.
-
- I am considering a move from my current QTH to a new apartment. However, the
- apartment I'm considering is located immediately next to three transmitting
- towers. All three are commercial broadcast stations, one FM (102.7 MHz), one
- TV (Channel 10) and one AM (1240 kHz). I am currently active on 2 m, 440 MHz,
- and am very active on HF for shortwave listening and will soon be working
- the HF ham bands. I am worried that moving so close to the towers will
- cause problems with the performance of my equipment (noise, desensing, images,
- intermod, etc.)
- I plan to set up some dipoles very close to the tower sites and am worried that
- it could ruin my enjoyment of the radio hobby if all the RF causes problems.
- Has anybody had any experience with this??? Is it anything to worry about???
- Any experiences anyone has had (or even just bold speculations from more
- seasoned operators/listeners) would be greatly appreciated.
-
- Thanks in advance,
-
- Ron Synowicki, KG0HX
- TMRDPSRS@ENGVMS.UNL.EDU
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 10:12:36
- From: sdd.hp.com!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!uknet!cf-cm!d089.elsy.cf.ac.uk!SPEMG1@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Need info on CCW
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I need info on Coherent CW (Rigs, Kits, Books etc.). Can anybody point me to
- the right direction please
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 20:50:02 GMT
- From: news.cerf.net!pagesat.net!olivea!news.bu.edu!att-in!att-out!cbnewst!waco@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Of Wouff Hongs and Royal Rites
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- jwittich@b4pph107.bnr.ca (Jeffrey Wittich) writes
-
- >Hi, everybody. Well, its about spring, and that means we are
- >getting ready for the local HamFest round here. Im looking
- >at the hamfest flyer, and one on the events listed is
- >The Royal Order of Whoff Hong Induction. Well ya see, Im kind
- >of a new guy, and dunno what thats all about. I asked about it
- >the local 2 meter repeater, and you should have heard the
- >snickers and snorks. I quickly surmised that it was a secret.
-
- Yep, it is a secret.
-
- > So keeping with the spirit of fun, I will not just ask
- >what this is all about, but I do have a few questions:
- >
- >1. Is it something that the OFs will enjoy at us new guys expense?
-
- You're very perceptive.
-
- >2. Is it an event that I would prefer no one had a camera at?
-
- Yep.
-
- >3. Would I be any less likely to get home that night than any
- > other night?
-
- I would hope not.
-
- >4. Will my health insurance cover anything thats likely to happen?
-
- Best check it out.
-
- >5. Is there a potential for any embarassment to any involved?
-
- Of course not.
-
- >6. Could I be black-mailed for being there?
-
- Only if someone knows about it.
-
- >7. Why am I so paranoid about this?
-
- Probably been on too many snipe hunts as a bag holder.
-
- >Thanks guys, and heres the Email address:
- >jwittich@b4pph107.bnr.ca
- >
- >I will let you know what happened (maybe) in May.
-
- Probably will be unable to break the sworn code of silence due
- to great bodily peril involved for doing so.
-
- >C ya.
- >
- >--------------------------------------------------------------------------
- >-=Jeff=- AC4ZO BNR claims they know nothing of my employment
- > here. Specially when my attorney calls.
- >--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Jeff,
-
- I must confess I don't know much more about it than you. It's one of
- the most mystic parts of the hobby. Enjoy the hamfest.
-
- 73,
-
- John, WB9VGJ
-
- =========================================================
- John L. Broughton | snail mail: Room 1K-322
- AT&T | 1200 E. Warrenville Rd.
- | P.O. Box 3045
- | Naperville, IL 60566-7045
- | (708) 713-4319
- | e-mail: john.l.broughton@att.com
- | att!john.l.broughton
- | air mail: WB9VGJ
- =========================================================
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Jan 94 20:27:34 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Of Wouff Hongs and Royal Rites
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- 1. Is it something that the OFs will enjoy at us new guys expense?
- not really.
- 2. Is it an event that I would prefer no one had a camera at?
- not usually
- 3. Would I be any less likely to get home that night than any
- other night?
- nope...but usually it's late when it's performed.
- 4. Will my health insurance cover anything thats likely to happen?
- yes.
- 5. Is there a potential for any embarassment to any involved?
- a little
- 6. Could I be black-mailed for being there?
- not to my knowledge...
- 7. Why am I so paranoid about this?
- dunno. you do get a certificate out of it all....but we can't tell you what's
- going to happen.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 26 Jan 1994 14:55:24 GMT
- From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Power Line Interference
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Jan25.140537.16951@ccd.harris.com> drs@ccd.harris.com (Doug Snowden) writes:
- >Please don't tell me to go beat on the pole!
-
- Well that's what the power company is going to do. Many problems like
- this are due to something coming loose mechanically on the pole. Jarring
- it is the way they pin it down. This *is* best left to professionals,
- however, since a possibility exists that striking the pole could make
- a permanent short, or drop something on you.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 25 Jan 1994 14:05:37 GMT
- From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!jabba.ess.harris.com!mlb.semi.harris.com!controls.ccd.harris.com!drs@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Power Line Interference
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- For the past 3 years I have been trying to track down some noise that appears
- to be coming from the power lines. I have walked around with a portable radio,
- driven around (for miles in all directions) in my car seeking the source. The
- source seems to come from one of the two power poles across the street from me.
-
- This noise tends to show up in the Winter time or on cool or rainy
- Summer days. In the Summer time I might have the noise on a day that remains
- cloudy (therefore cooler). In the Winter time the noise also tends to also
- show up mostly (but not always) at night time when it is cooler. We are talking
- about Florida, so in the Winter time it doesnt normally get that cold. Now here
- is the weird part: The noise has a cyclic period of about 1.5 seconds on and
- 1.5 seconds off. This part doesn't vary. If I have the noise, it has this
- period. Now there are no capacitors on the power poles around me. The pole that
- I suspect has a transformer on it. Can a transformer do this? How? Is there
- some sort of capacitor or protection circuit on these xfmrs that can do this?
-
- Normally, I cannot determine the source (this changes). My 20 meter
- beam seems to tell me which pole the noise comes from, but if I walk up to
- the pole, with a portable radio I normally am not able to zero in on it.
- I have called the power company in the past to repair a problem which I was
- able to point them to. I am reluctant to call them on this one, even though
- it tears up all from 1500 khz to 21 mhz. I have heard that this sort of
- interference can originate miles away and be picked up by the power lines at
- some distant point (my house). I imagine I'll call the power company for
- resolution, but would like any input I can get before I do it. Please don't
- tell me to go beat on the pole!
-
-
-
- --
-
- Doug Snowden
- drs@ccd.harris.com
- N4IJ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jan 1994 16:58:32 GMT
- From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!mailer.acns.fsu.edu!freenet2.scri.fsu.edu!ijordan@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Warning About FT-415/815 mod on world
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Sorry guys. Mail problems. The warning was that after you do the mod for
- the ft-415/815 that is on world.std.com, you loose your Automatic Repeater
- Offset (ARO) capability. It's a tradeoff. Bummer.
-
- --
- * * Ian Jordan * *
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 26 Jan 1994 16:56:29 GMT
- From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!mailer.acns.fsu.edu!freenet2.scri.fsu.edu!ijordan@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Yeasu FT416 mods wanted
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Read the FT-415 mods. Exactly the same internally. Get 'em of FTP from
- world.std.com! But the extend tx mod will kill your Automatic repeater
- offset (ARO), so you have to be willing to loose that.
-
-
- --
- * * Ian Jordan * *
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
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